CombatEffective - This madness must stop!

Seem like the qualifications for being an Islamic spiritual leader or teacher are;

1. Unique ability in memorizing the Quran.

2. Sociopathic tendencies to wards infidels and, ... sociopathic tendencies to wards fellow Muslims, especially women and children.

#2 is a trait that should enable them to rule the world. Sure glad they are Allah stupid.
My point being that Allah is not their problem. He is justification for their cultural nature.

If a woman or child is killed or murdered we all can feel heartbreak for them.
When a sociopath is killed he does not experience the same kind of fear and horror the innocent feel.
I no longer care if an Innocent man is executed if he was the usual suspect or just an accomplice in a serious crime because the guilt of enabling others to do what you approve of is the same difference. The Muslim understands that well and says so every time a terrorist act is committed. He understands that every time a fellow Muslim falls short as that is a weak element of Islam that needs to be corrected or eliminated. Obviously if the correction causing a death, then the death is justified by the correction and not the corrector.

Conclusion;
A true Muslim cannot be accused a crime in any sense of the word as he is above man's law. A true throwback to the days of the corrupt Monarchy and God Kings.

DW, unless you're arguing from the viewpoint of a radical Islamist, I'm not following. I think the vast majority of Joe and Jane Muslim just want what the vast majority of everyone wants: a safe environment to raise their children, a free marketplace for commerce and ideas, and a steady income. The political and religious environment most of those Muslims are in, though, ensure they have none of those things.

Rob I am always extreme but I don't believe I am off the wall or totally out of line ever. Just way ahead of the game in that my extreme would prevent the extremes of others. I threaten no one that is not threatening others in some way direct or indirect, harmless or innocent.

If a radical Christian group shows it's true colors and goes nut, kills them selves or others Christian denounce them vehemently. If a small group or individual goes bananas Mainstream Christianity condemns tham.

I do not hear any local or global outcry against the extreme norms of Islam either from those in the West or in Mideast or Africa, Eastern Europe, Indo China and every where else they are fighting for controll and blamming others for their own cultural problems. I do see dipserate storys of modetates speking up or demonstrating but in the bigger picture it's a joke.

Btw I agree with you that Muslims are people and want peace and security. So do citizens of all corners of the world. That is everybodys story and they are all stickingto it.

Having my ear to the ground on this for the past several years, I have heard some outcry from "moderate" Muslims. (Really, they are very very liberal Muslims) Nothing on the order of the outcry heard from Christians (and christians) when extreamists are found among our numbers.

If you read here, in the forums (reply number 30) you will see that about 3/4 of muslims are NOT that liberal, and NOT that peace loving. Also check reply number 24 in the same thread, to see how dangerous this is to us (and US).

But just as in the forum thread, I do wish we would differentiate between Islam itself, and Muslims (the people who practice it). Unfortunately, my studies of the Koran, looking for whether the wahabbies are misinterpreting it, or whether the liberal Muslims are misinterpreting it, is about two feet behind the back burner, and almost forgotten.

TRex

I am not wholly confident in my assesment that all Muslims are, by their very beliefs either radical or potentially radical. All Germans did not wnat to be Nazis but they all went along. I don't feel obligated to acept anybody I do not want to accept, or wholly trust. If that translates into my p;olitics and an ability to keep more Muslims from comming here as well as make them damn uncomfortable when they start wanting their Muslim traditions and sub culture in the public square and governemnt them I am whatever anybody wants to label me. I gurantee that a national crisis, like a REAL econoomic crisis. Not a whinning worrying crisis, a real one that lasts a spell, we will see the value of diversity and a plurelistic soceity. We can only maintain this feel good experiment in diversity when based on prosperity. If people don't assimilate then we need a whole lotta money to appease them. When the money runs out?

Sorry if I have ostricized myself here.

Don't see no ostrich here.

You gotta do worse than that to get a rise out of me.

This is the place to fool around
with dangerous ideas like telling the truth.

TRex

Very well said, TRex. Very well said.

U guys are example what this country is about. luv it.